This is only a small sample of Israel’s wonderful kindness to its closest neighbours

Deir Yassin: 9-10 April 1948: The massacre that
became the symbol of Zionist aggression of the Palestinians as
well as Zionist treachery. The Mukhtar of the village had
agreed with the Zionists to provide information on the movement
of strangers in the area as well as other intelligence, provided
their village is spared. The Zionists were not to keep their
side of the promise. In an operation which was called Operation
Unity, the Haganah cooperated with the Irgun and the Stern
Gang in this operation. At 4:30 am on Friday 9th April 1948 they
surrounded the village which was overlooked by two Jewish
settlements, Givat Shaul and Montefiore. For two days Zionist
terrorists killed men women and children, raped women and stole
their jewelry. A chilling account of the massacre is given by
a Red Cross doctor who arrived at the village on the second day
and saw himself, the, “mopping up” as one of the terrorists put
it to him. He says that the “mopping up” had been done with
machine guns, then grenades and finished of with knives.
Women's bellies were cut open and babies were butchered in the
hands of their helpless mothers. Around 250 people were
murdered in cold blood. Of them 25 pregnant women were
bayoneted in the abdomen while still alive. 52 children were
maimed under the eyes of their own mothers, and they were slain
and their heads cut off. The Jewish Agency and the commander of
the British ground troops knew of the massacre while it was
going on, however, no one intervened to stop it.


The Dahmash Mosque Massacre: 11 July 1948, after the Israeli
89th Commando Battalion lead by Moshe Dayan occupied Lydda, the
Israelis told Arabs through loudspeakers that if they went into
a certain mosque they would be safe. In retaliation for a hand
grenade attack after the surrender that killed several Israeli
soldiers, 80-100 Palestinians were massacred in the mosque,
their bodies lay decomposing for 10 days in the midsummer
heat. The mosque still stands abandoned today. This massacre
spread fear and panic among the Arab population of Lydda and
Ramle, who were then ordered to march out of these towns after
they were stripped of all personal belonging by Israeli
soldiers. Yetzak Rabin, Brigade Commander then says: There
was no way of avoiding the use of force and warning shots in
order to make the inhabitants march ten to fifteen miles to the
point where they met up with the legion. Most of the 60,000
inhabitants of Lyda and Ramble came to refugee camps near
Ramallah, around 350 lost their lives on the way through
dehydration and sun stroke. Many survived by drinking their own
urine. The conditions in the refugee camps were to claim more
lives.


Kafr Qasem: 29 October 1956 Israeli frontier guards
started at 4pm what they called a tour of the Triangle
Villages. They told the Mukhtars of those villages that the
curfew from that day onwards was to start from 5 PM instead of
6 PM. They reached Kafr Qasem around 4:45 and the
Mukhtar protested that there are about 400 villagers working
outside the village and there is not enough time to inform them
of the new times. An officer assured him that they will be
taken care of. Then the guards waited at the entrance to the
village, 43 Kafr Qasem inhabitants were massacred in cold blood
by the army as they returned from work, their crime was
violating a curfew they did not know about. On the northern
entrance of the village 3 were killed and 2 were killed inside
of the village. Amongst the dead were men, women, and children.
An officer called Danhan was touring the area in his jeep reporting the
massacre, on his wireless he said "minus 15 Arabs" after a
while his message on the radio to his H.Q. was "it is difficult
to count".


Sabra and Shatila: 15-18 September 1982, after
the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon Phalangist puppets of the
Israelis massacred over 2000 Palestinian men, women and
children under the watchful eyes of the Israeli army. A body
count by the International committee of the Red Cross revealed
2750 dead, the real figure is thought to be much higher and may
never be known. Some figures of the death toll is as low as 460.




Eretz Checkpoint: 17 July 1994, Palestinian sources reported that the occupation forces had committed that Sunday morning a disgusting massacre against Palestinian workers at Eretz checkpoint. Eyewitnesses and Israeli sources reported that 11 Palestinians have been shot dead and 200 injured. Israeli sources also reported that 21 Israeli soldiers including 1 settler were injured. Two soldiers were shot by bullets, one died. As reported by Palestinian and Israeli sources, the scene was described as a war zone which lasted for 6 hours. Four Israeli tanks and helicopters were brought in by the occupation forces, while a number of settlers were taking part in firing at Palestinians. Protests had spread all over the Occupied Territories. In Gaza, Palestinians raised black flags and called for revenge.


The First Qana Massacre as reported by Robert Fisk: 18 April, 1996, Qana, southern Lebanon - It was a massacre. Not since Sabra and Shatila had I seen the innocent slaughtered like this. The Lebanese refugee women and children and men lay in heaps, their hands or arms or legs missing, beheaded or disemboweled. There were well over a hundred of them. A baby lay without a head. The Israeli shells had scythed through them as they lay in the United Nations shelter, believing that they were safe under the world's protection. Like the Muslims of Srebrenica, the Muslims of Qana were wrong.
In front of a burning building of the UN's Fijian battalion headquarters, a girl held a corpse in her arms, the body of a grey- haired man whose eyes were staring at her, and she rocked the corpse back and forth in her arms, keening and weeping and crying the same words over and over: "My father, my father." A Fijian UN soldier stood amid a sea of bodies and, without saying a word, held aloft the body of a headless child.
"The Israelis have just told us they'll stop shelling the area," a UN soldier said, shaking with anger. "Are we supposed to thank them?" In the remains of a burning building - the conference room of the Fijian UN headquarters - a pile of corpses was burning. The roof had crashed in flames onto their bodies, cremating them in front of my eyes. When I walked towards them, I slipped on a human hand...
Israel's slaughter of civilians in this terrible 10-day offensive - 206 by last night - has been so cavalier, so ferocious, that not a Lebanese will forgive this massacre. There had been the ambulance attacked on Saturday, the sisters killed in Yohmor the day before, the 2-year-old girl decapitated by an Israeli missile four days ago. And earlier yesterday, the Israelis had slaughtered a family of 12 - the youngest was a four- day-old baby - when Israeli helicopter pilots fired missiles into their home.
Shortly afterwards, three Israeli jets dropped bombs only 250 metres from a UN convoy on which I was travelling, blasting a house 30 feet into the air in front of my eyes. Travelling back to Beirut to file my report on the Qana massacre to the Independent last night, I found two Israeli gunboats firing at the civilian cars on the river bridge north of Sidon.
Every foreign army comes to grief in Lebanon. The Sabra and Shatila massacre of Palestinians by Israel's militia allies in 1982 doomed Israel's 1982 invasion. Now the Israelis are stained again by the bloodbath at Qana, the scruffy little Lebanese hill town where the Lebanese believe Jesus turned water into wine.
The Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres may now wish to end this war. But the Hizbollah are not likely to let him. Israel is back in the Lebanese quagmire. Nor will the Arab world forget yesterday's terrible scenes.
The blood of all the refugees ran quite literally in streams from the shell-smashed UN compound restaurant in which the Shiite Muslims from the hill villages of southern Lebanon - who had heeded Israel's order to leave their homes - had pathetically sought shelter. Fijian and French soldiers heaved another group of dead - they lay with their arms tightly wrapped around each other - into blankets.
A French UN trooper muttered oaths to himself as he opened a bag in which he was dropping feet, fingers, pieces of people's arms.
And as we walked through this obscenity, a swarm of people burst into the compound. They had driven in wild convoys down from Tyre and began to pull the blankets off the mutilated corpses of their mothers and sons and daughters and to shriek "Allahu Akbar" (God is Great") and to threaten the UN troops.
We had suddenly become not UN troops and journalists but Westerners, Israel's allies, an object of hatred and venom. One bearded man with fierce eyes stared at us, his face dark with fury. "You are Americans," he screamed at us. "Americans are dogs. You did this. Americans are dogs."

Of course, there have been many other acts of kindness by Israel, the shelling of a Palestinian family as they had a picnic at the beach, Beit Hanoun (at least twice) and of course the second Qana massacre.

So, I raise my glass to Israel and wish her a happy birthday, but even more, I wish that all her leaders from first to last and all the people who supported them burn in the depths of hell, along with the Hitler’s, Stalin’s and Pol Pot’s of this world.

Shalom Aleikhem !!!




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finalflash, on 5/15/2008 5:28:15 PM
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I pray for the safety of the Jews that do not deserve what is coming. There will be a swift change in power soon in this world, and the next powers will have no affinity for the Jews whatsoever. So many times the Jews have gone through the same shit again and again yet they never learn. Once again the actions of a few will cause the deaths of many that did nothing to stop the insanity.
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Dock, on 5/15/2008 5:50:31 PM
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I <3 Israel.
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Khaos01, on 5/15/2008 5:55:46 PM
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finalflash wrote:
I pray for the safety of the Palestinians that do not deserve what is coming. There will be a swift change in power soon in this world, and the next powers will have no affinity for the Palestinians whatsoever. So many times the Palestinians have gone through the same shit again and again yet they never learn. Once again the actions of a few will cause the deaths of many that did nothing to stop the insanity.


Agreed. It's a real shame.
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Bebichan, on 5/15/2008 6:13:25 PM
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60 years and hopefully gone before another 60 years has dawned.
A scar on the face of the earth, and a ruin to the middle east...the cause for un-balance and the majority of the destruction carried out.

If Israel Dies...peace will follow.

As far as politics has taught us and what history has shown us...every empire that rises will always fall.
There is one one empire, that which is the backbone of Israel and will lead to its destruction, that will fall sooner than we all think.
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cadpig, on 5/15/2008 7:26:58 PM
Total Posts: 1469, Joined: 1/28/2006
If israel falls, i hope they die fighting bravely and take the entire middle east with it. There is either going to be a two state solution or a sheet of radioactive glass...Make your choice wisely..
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scout, on 5/16/2008 3:52:31 AM
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@cadpig,

"Happy Birthday Israel, it's been 60 years and i wish you many more.
American will always stand with you and watch your back. Our closest ally in the middle east. :) Stand Strong!!!! God bless and always protect you!!!"

At last, the veil of neutrality slips to reveal a rabid Christian Zionist!!!

I'm still trying to come to terms with your second comment.

@Shanus,

"Just thought I would throw in a little balance...."

Shanus, is that somehow supposed to excuse Israel's crimes against humanity?

Edit; "I <3 Israel"

At first i thought that was sarcasm Dock, then i remembered that you're American, so i guess it's your Patriotic duty to "<3 Israel"

I hope America burns in hell for her crimes too.





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cadpig, on 5/16/2008 8:36:18 AM
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scout wrote:
@cadpig,
"Happy Birthday Israel, it's been 60 years and i wish you many more.
American will always stand with you and watch your back. Our closest ally in the middle east. :) Stand Strong!!!! God bless and always protect you!!!"
At last, the veil of neutrality slips to reveal a rabid Christian Zionist!!!
I'm still trying to come to terms with your second comment.
@Shanus,
"Just thought I would throw in a little balance...."
Shanus, is that somehow supposed to excuse Israel's crimes against humanity?
Edit; "I <3 Israel"
At first i thought that was sarcasm Dock, then i remembered that you're American, so i guess it's your Patriotic duty to "<3 Israel"
I hope America burns in hell for her crimes too.


C'mon, i'm not a Christian Zionist...I'm just sick of the fighting...The only way out of this mess is a Two state solution.. With the Palestinian and israelis living in peace.. I know i annoy the Hell out of you. (and most of the people on this forum) Please answer this one question...Do you want to see a major knockdown drag out war where the Palestinian drive out the jews or would you like to see a two state solution? It's not a trick question, just an honest answer.
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ShanusMaximus, on 5/16/2008 10:02:10 AM
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@Scouter

"Shanus, is that somehow supposed to excuse Israel's crimes against humanity?"

No, but it shows that they have done things that have helped humanity. Unlike the Palestinians who seem to have a hard time even helping themselves. Shows that maybe scout, maybe that your blanket statement that Israel is nothing but pure evil is nothing but pure crap. Pretty impressive for a bunch of "savages".

@Bebi

"60 years and hopefully gone before another 60 years has dawned.
A scar on the face of the earth, and a ruin to the middle east...the cause for un-balance and the majority of the destruction carried out.

If Israel Dies...peace will follow."

Well Bebi, that attitude is why there will always be a conflict. You don't want peace, you want their destruction. How helpful and progressive.
Should have Israel been made into a state? Probably not the best idea (cough KOSOVO cough), but my dear Bebi hindsight is always 20/20.
They are not going to leave, nor should they.
If you ding dongs will just give up the "drive the Jews into the sea" outlook on things, not fuck up things like when they give you the Gaza strip, put the guns down, get rid of the gangsters that run everything, quit fighting amongst themselves and maybe this time ACCEPT a Palestinian state.




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medfreak, on 5/16/2008 11:37:49 AM
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Unlike the Palestinians who seem to have a hard time even helping themselves.


You get occupied by another country. Let it govern your economy, your banks, your imports and exports, your livelihood, your roads and your streets, and then lets see how much you can help yourself.

If you ding dongs will just give up the "drive the Jews into the sea" outlook on things, not fuck up things like when they give you the Gaza strip, put the guns down, get rid of the gangsters that run everything, quit fighting amongst themselves and maybe this time ACCEPT a Palestinian state.


They didn't own the Gaza strip to give it back in the first place. Gaza was a terrible place for them to be. The costs far outweighed the benefits and they decided to leave. Its not because of some gracious concession. Spare me the Israeli bullshit with their supposed Gaza "giveaway".

How the fuck do you expect the Palestinians to stop any fighting or power problems, when they are being politically manipulated heavily by the U.S. and Israel. How do you expect the executive branch of any Palestinian government to do ANYTHING when they aren't allowed any real sovereignty or forces to control.

Iraq is in absolute shambles, and the fighting is continuous despite them having a U.S. supplied army and the U.S. army itself, and they fail at doing that. You expect the Palestinians to achieve any control of any sort without some major Palestinian force, which is obviously never going to be allowed because Israel would never allow it.

Besides, what do you think Israel has anything to offer? They are filling the west bank with settlements, and East Jerusalem. There are around 0.5 million settlers now rooted in the west bank, and all major Palestinian cities are being heavily sieged by a ton of checkpoints.

How do you expect the Palestinians to put any guns down, when they are being bombarded with missiles on a daily basis, constantly being rounded up and imprisoned for nonsensical charges, and being discriminated against under the most blatant apartheid of the century.

You might like to delude yourself that there is ANY balance to this argument. But there isn't.
The facts are:

One country is an Occupation force, the other is under occupation.

One country possesses the most massive arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in the region, including biological, chemical and Nuclear weaponry, the other has ak-47s and pistols.

One acts as if its doing the noble thing when a Pilot sends a guided missile into the safety of a family's house, killings tens in the process, and then hailed back as a hero, the other sends their men with bombs strapped around their waists as a desperate measure to retaliate. Both are equally cowardly, but one is easier to dismiss as an "error", and the dumb masses would buy into it.

One has ten times the casualty figures of the other.

Reality is not "fair and balanced".
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ShanusMaximus, on 5/16/2008 1:15:40 PM
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All that is well and good...but has fighting the Israelis the way the Palestinians have made things better or worse for themselves?
It has made it worse, in fact it is so bad they are fighting amongst themselves. WINNING PLAN INDEED!
Now if those pesky Israelis would just leave...Time to live in reality...they are not going to do it. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it...so what do you want to do?
Keep going with the same crap ad infintum? If they do, the end game is that Palestinians lose and lose again. So really I guess they play right into the Israeli's hands....
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