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Israel, the Oil Bourse, and the Iran Threat

   Posted by Souldrift  Promoted 899 days 4 hours ago  247 views   

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Two questions come to mind considering all the puzzle pieces. 1) Is more violence in the Middle East actually going to help U.S. security, or destabilize the region further? And 2) Is it really our physical security, or economic security, that is at stake here?


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Alucard1475, on 3/13/2006 5:59:02 AM
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...more violence, more threat to the U.S., more itching for some kinda war, more money out of my pocket...that's about it.
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skins2153, on 3/15/2006 2:06:28 AM
Total Posts: 43, Joined: 2/6/2006
Thats right The US and Israel perpetrated 9/11...
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And when it comes to physical and economic security in the US being the same... THATS 100% CORRECT.
After all our Capitalist America is built on both..
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VincentOxford, on 3/15/2006 4:19:26 AM
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Yeah, well you can take your Capitalism and shove it.
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Souldrift, on 3/15/2006 5:54:25 AM
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Skins, mature response there, I must pay respect. Heh. Have you THOUGHT about this at all?

I see you capitalize "Capitalist America" -- and therefore you're willing to send our children over to Iraq do die, and to attack Iranian nuclear facilities even though we have no proof that they're building weapons; and despite the actual threat being to Israel and the possibility of an Iranian controlled Iraq?

Have you EVER stopped to think how ludicrous it is that our physical and economic security is SO DEPENDENT upon the Middle East? And is that really good for America?
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Rambutan, on 3/15/2006 8:02:34 AM
Total Posts: 80, Joined: 2/2/2006
MONEY is what drives america. It doesn't matter if the region is destabilized. Just as long as there's money to be made in the politician's pocket its worth it. If there's a security problem, there's more money to be made from tax payer's pockets and the spoils of war.
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AsiaRulez, on 3/15/2006 8:42:57 AM
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Why does Israel keep Pissing the Arab world off. It is just a matter of time America will stop supporting them coz they dont have anything America wants. And then Israel will be royally screwed. It is stupid to think Iran will start a Nuclear war.
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JanusComplex, on 3/15/2006 9:38:21 AM
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It would take a long time to fully explain why our country is so deeply in bed with Israel.

It would make sense in a twisted sort of way if the zionists would halt their expansion only to make it look like they are being threatened by neighboring arabic countries thereby giving them an excuse to make Israel as big as they believe it should be by "pre-emptive" action.
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ukinformer, on 3/15/2006 10:19:01 AM
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"It is just a matter of time America will stop supporting them coz they dont have anything America wants" If only that was true, the world would be a much safer place. I don't believe America will ever stop supporting Israel, for several reasons;

First of all there's the Jewish political lobby, which is by far the most powerfull lobby in the US and who use their influence to pretty much dictate foreign policy when it comes to Israel. Every time the US even hints at moving the other direction, the pro-Israeli jewish lobby is out in full force. I doubt many Americans understand the full impact this is having on their country, since pretty much all of the US/ArAb conflict can be traced directly back to Israel's actions. It is hard to deny that if the US had not supported the Israelis so staunchly, in what amounts to an illegal occupaton, then there wouldn't be so much love lost between the US and the middle east.

Secondly, at the moment its in the US's best interests to keep Israel happy, since in essence they are the US's only real ally in the region. Plus it doesnt really seem like the US wants to improve their relationship with the Arab world, they just want their oil. It is no coincidince that their last two wars in the region have been in countries that hold vast amounts of oil and natural gas resources (Afghanistan and Iraq). So as long as they have an ally as powerfull as Israel in the region they can pursue this agenda. What is ironic though is that while the US might think that they control Israel, it is infact quite the opposite (atleast when it comes to foreign policy).
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SeriousSam, on 3/15/2006 11:00:48 AM
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"Christian Zionists believe the return of the Jews to Israel, the holy land, is the fulfillment of prophesy and is a necessary step on the road to the Rapture"

That is the most terrifying thing i've ever read. Fuck religion, fuck right in the arse.
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lordzane, on 3/15/2006 2:54:17 PM
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I think there is going to be a shift of america being bog brother to the world, started with the war, and the bourse in iran, I think countries are going to cut america down from its high podium, fact is the american people are going to be the ones sufferring, I dont mean that as an attack, but as of a consequence of the government not giving money back to its nation, for healthcare, schools etc. The american engine has gotten used to its status of acquiring money and spending it on stupid things like war on terrorism, instead of where its needed i.e. New Orleans after katrina, homeless etc. If katrina went through the whole of america, Bush would be out on his ass, we know why, he doesnt give a shit about national crisis's, hes trying to hold onto the only thing which got him into government, FEAR, and thats the war. He probably making a pretty sum of cash off it as well. Can you tell me Im wrong?
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