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r4mcok, on 5/22/2008 9:52:23 AM
Total Posts: 256, Joined: 9/16/2007
"It's ironic that when SOME Americans run to the defense of their nation to counter the common "ignorant American" impression, they get help fortify that impression themselves."

sorry i'm probably just being dumb, but what do you mean?
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cadpig, on 5/22/2008 9:52:35 AM
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@omslemming,

Damn Dude, don't hold back!!! Tell us how you really feel:)
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denizsi, on 5/22/2008 9:52:42 AM
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Defending a global arms policy of complete paranoid nuts on the basis of one single divided city?

Oppression in Soviet bloc countries shouldn't be understated or overlooked, but in the end, that in no way rationalized the USA's international arms policies. US did near-nothing for them post-WW2 to change for the better. The change came as an evolutionary political step.
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omslemming, on 5/22/2008 9:55:41 AM
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Romanov wrote:
^ oh yeah we cover up all the time

the fucking always perfect EU and UN never make mistakes or lie or cover up.... oh wait....


No actully we dont, british troops were involved a few months back in an incident of torturing iraqi captives at the uk militery jail in basra, now what does our government do? ill tell you what those animals involved are now serving prison time as they should be

Now what happens when us troops fuck up? oh yeah, the government blocks any requests for trails, wont co-operate with any inquests blocks any requests for evidence bascially does anything to make sure there troops are not held accountable and fuck the poor bastards who will never see justice!

thats the difference
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denizsi, on 5/22/2008 9:55:48 AM
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sorry i'm probably just being dumb, but what do you mean?


I meant that some of the Americans who reject the generalization of Americans being ignorants/illiterates are themselves so ill-informed that they barely know about the full extent of US' role in world wars.
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Romanov, on 5/22/2008 9:57:35 AM
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denizsi

okay thats fine and dandy

omnes(whatever the rest of your name is)

dude, really? your going to bring up killing innocent civilians? your kidding right?

number 1) i dont give a fuck, we are AMERICA BITCH

number 2) everybody makes mistakes

number 3) the UK has never ever killed innocent civilians?

please define innocent civilian
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omslemming, on 5/22/2008 9:58:04 AM
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denizsi wrote:
Defending a global arms policy of complete paranoid nuts on the basis of one single divided city?

Oppression in Soviet bloc countries shouldn't be understated or overlooked, but in the end, that in no way rationalized the USA's international arms policies. US did near-nothing for them post-WW2 to change for the better. The change came as an evolutionary political step.


The only thing america did in the cold war is almost end the world accidenlty 2 or 3 times when someone got a bit itchy on the trigger or the wrong message got relayed to the wrong person, look up the history of the cold war and check out the section on near misses as far as missles almost being wrongly launched etc its fucking scary to say the least, esp when you consider this whole conflict was based on paranoia alone...to think the world came to the brink of ending because of such a mundane stupid thing.....fuck...only in america!
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Romanov, on 5/22/2008 10:00:36 AM
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denizsi

please tell me you dont think that the US is the most brainwashed country. any country in western europe, excluding the Uk, is more brainwashed.

did you know that more than half of germans under the age of 24 dont know what the holocaust was? talk about brainwashing

western european media is from extreme left to moderate left. you want to talk about brainwashing. (excluding the Uk because at least they have the telegraph)
you always complain about the US yet we would come to your aid immediately. you always complain about the US when your political elite are just as corrupted as ours
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omslemming, on 5/22/2008 10:02:47 AM
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Romanov wrote:
denizsi

okay thats fine and dandy

omnes(whatever the rest of your name is)

dude, really? your going to bring up killing innocent civilians? your kidding right?

number 1) i dont give a fuck, we are AMERICA BITCH

number 2) `everybody makes mistakes`

number 3) the UK has never ever killed innocent civilians?

please define innocent civilian



Innocent civilian as in ordinary iraqi family sitting at home doing ordinary things suddenly get a bomb through the roof because some us plane has the wrong co-ordinates loaded from bad intellegence etc

or ordinary iraqi family driving up to a checkpoint get fired upon because some american soldier is so jumpy hes seeing things that arent really there, as had been reported happening a few times.

`the UK has never ever killed innocent civilians?` yes we have and I never said we hadnt but in iraq you have to admit the majority of innocent casulties are down to american forces


`everybody makes mistakes` yes but most people are big enough to own up to them and pay thier dues for them not activily block any chance of justice being done because it would mean us troops going down.

`i dont give a fuck, we are AMERICA BITCH
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im not even going to respond to that its meaningless drivel
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r4mcok, on 5/22/2008 10:05:34 AM
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denizsi wrote:
sorry i'm probably just being dumb, but what do you mean?


I meant that some of the Americans who reject the generalization of Americans being ignorants/illiterates are themselves so ill-informed that they barely know about the full extent of US' role in world wars.



ahh right my bad, sorry was being an idiot.
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