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Hacking Charges Brought Against Mom Who Lied on MySpace

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The mother who pretended to be a young boy to send bullying messages to a 13 year old girl was recently charged with conspiracy and "hacking."


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ThisisJeff, on 5/16/2008 9:40:31 AM
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I just read the article about all this bullshit too.

I feel all charges should be dropped and an apology from the MO police should be issued to Lori Drew and her accomplices.

She did NOTHING wrong in the eyes of the law. If you kill yourself that is your own damn fault. I can sit here screaming at a peer about how useless/wortheless he/she is or how much better off we all would be without them till im blue in the face. If they actually take the extra step and off themselves the problem lies completely on their end.

Sure, id be a huge asshole for driving someone to that point but that is quite another issue here.
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HockeyGod, on 5/16/2008 9:45:24 AM
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It's actually not the MO police here.. they didn't charge her. The feds stepped in and made charges - as hacking is an FBI jurisdiction.

But your points still hold.
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mick420, on 5/16/2008 9:54:32 AM
Total Posts: 139, Joined: 3/4/2008
A grown woman playing childish games. Maybe not criminal, but none the less, she deserves to be taken out back and put out of her misery.
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ThisisJeff, on 5/16/2008 9:55:32 AM
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HockeyGod wrote:
It's actually not the MO police here.. they didn't charge her. The feds stepped in and made charges - as hacking is an FBI jurisdiction.

But your points still hold.



Yeah i forgot, the MO police could not legally charge her with anything so the Feds stepped in... what a country we live in eh?
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Flik, on 5/16/2008 9:59:20 AM
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HockeyGod wrote:
There's a big problem with that interpretation. It means anybody who provides a fake email, fake name, or fake phone number to any website is also a felony hacker.

Maybe, but you aren't going to be arrested for providing fake details in the majority of the cases.  This is the same with my university's policy on Internet usage, for example, where they say that I'm not allowed to download anything.  They're not going to yell at me if I download anything, but if something bad happens as a result of it, then they're going to come down on me and cite that rule as the one I broke.  It's more like saying "we reserve the right to punish you".

And I think that if you asked most people, what Lori did was morally wrong and worthy of punishment.  There might not be a law against inciting suicide amongst minors, but that doesn't mean it isn't morally wrong.  There wasn't always a law for murder, but that's wrong too.

Maybe this should be a precedent that brings in a law like that.  Regardless, it was a reprehensible thing to do and she shouldn't just be let off.
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Kinderplatz, on 5/16/2008 10:06:44 AM
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She violated the MySpace user agreement, which counts as fraud, and as a result a young girl died. They need to rub her nose in that fact HARD.
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currenl, on 5/16/2008 10:21:17 AM
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the land of the slaves and the home of the afraid
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VaMpIrEF00D, on 5/16/2008 10:28:16 AM
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Um... Pretending to be someone else online is actually illegal... You obviously didn't get the memo Hockey
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Dock, on 5/16/2008 10:29:44 AM
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HockeyGod wrote:
Justice is about the law - not revenge.


Exactly. Hopefully this case gets overturned after review, as for the reasons you mentioned with dangerous precedent being set by this case. The woman is clearly wrong and disturbed and one's heart must go out to Megan and her family.

The bigger issue here, in my opinion, is an intrinsic problem with the current US justice system and your quote above nails the problem on the head. Justice should be about law, not revenge.

In a case like this, emotions run high. It's similar to any case where there is gross criminal/cruel activity directed toward a victim. In this case it was a teen who may have already been emotionally disturbed or vulnerable falling victim to an older woman's trolling machinations.

The mob reaction is naturally, 'string her up', 'pull out the tar and feathers' or the classic 'take her out back', which has already been featured in our comments. Sure, that's our natural, gut human reaction to things like this but it defeats one of the core elements of purpose in our Western government and judicial system: put order, control and reason over fickle emotions.

The big problem with the US is that we still can't objectively consider the inherent problems with a standing, federally endorsed system of capital punishment. In a land where we can actually sanction taking the life of a person who can be permanently removed from society, we'll continue to have lesser examples of mob mentality and 'get revenge' rules in the fray. I'll end my rant so as not to get off subject too much, but good ed and good points. The mom should face some sort of charges/accountability, but not at the expense of contrived charges. Shouted.
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jackanape, on 5/16/2008 10:38:08 AM
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I'm going to play devil's advocate and say she's guilty of fraud, harrassment, and manslaughter.

She was a grown woman and a mother, and how does she act? She fraudulently decieved the girl, invoking her trust via friendship, then started harrassing her online. While she may not have killed the girl herself, through her actions, she caused enough mental anguish and anxiety to make the girl off herself.

Cyber crimes divisions often use police in disguise to catch pedophiles. I have no problem with that. If you're some freaky NAMBLA supporter, you deserve to be arrested. But, when the police use deception to justify an end, why shouldn't a civillian be under the same scrutiny.

What was this woman's goal?
People don't normally do things like that without justification, and hers was simple harrassment that went to far.
That makes her guilty of manslaughter.
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