This article is from October 2005 and is based on a meeting with Palestinian leaders in 2003.


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mmateri, on 5/20/2008 10:30:49 AM
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^ then you sir are retarded
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jackanape, on 5/20/2008 10:37:39 AM
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Cadpig:

When you talk to god, does he actually talk back or are you just trying to state that in some sort of meta-spiritual type of mumbo jumbo?

"We have Gay marriage forced up on us by court ruling and not by the voting booth. We have moral corruption and hypocrisy
by some of our leaders in the church and in government. It's getting harder and harder to teach our kids right from wrong in this (if it feels good then do it) society. Yeah, it's an uphill battle..I have to admit. I get really tired and frustrated on how things are going. Many people leave the faith with anger and disgust or just turn way..I am tested on a daily basis, but i still believe."


Belief and faith is one thing but it works better for each individual to decide. You don't like gay marriage, sucks for you. Suck it up though. You christians start wars and talk to your invisible guidance counseller all you want. You think the rest of us are evil or wrong if we don't jump on your holy bandwagon.

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cadpig, on 5/20/2008 11:14:31 AM
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@mmateri,

It's cool, i have been called worst.

@jackanape,

The only problem i have with gay marriage is it should be decided by the voters of a state. Not by a group of judges. This is just me..I can't speak for everybody..If the people of a state want gay marriage and they vote for it. Then it would be easier for me to accept. Because then it's the will of the people.
When god talks to me..It's more like a voice inside my head....No it's not like scifi or a voice over radio. Does that make me insane? I think your insane when you hear voices that tell you to hurt yourself and others. Then you do it.

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frostymug, on 5/20/2008 12:30:57 PM
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If Bush's god is Bush Sr. then I completely believe him when he says god told him to invade Iraq. Dubya has been his fathers pawn from the beginning.

When he was first "elected" I declared at that time, "Great, the US is now on the list of businesses that Bush Sr. has given Bush Jr. to run into the ground." Look into his business track record if you don't think it's true. Dubya has never run a business that didn't fail miserably. And that includes a fucking major league baseball team!
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scout, on 5/20/2008 1:28:44 PM
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Wolffe,

"I think scout is just reinforcing the time and time again proven fact that President George Walker Bush is in fact, completely insane on all levels"

Exactly. Also it was to try and show a point to people who are constantly accusing Muslims of being "crazy warmongers"....There's no difference between, fundie Christians, Islamic extremists and rabid zionists, they all have similar traits, they use religion and religious texts to spout their hatred and love of death and destruction and it's your everyday person on the street who usually pays the heaviest price because of the actions of a crazy and perverted few.

@Scobie,

I think fundies a good description and unfortunately it's spreading in Britain too. Last night i watced a programme with some of these nutjobs and i recoiled at the rabid and hateful way they interpreted the Bible.

@Cadpig,

God talks to me too Cad, but he taks to me through the Bible,that's where i take my instruction from, not some voice i hear in my head.

Nowhere in the New Testament are Christians encouragd to wage physical war.

My guidance comes from reading the words and following the actions of Jesus Christ,but the minute he asks me to go and start wars in the name of "freedom and democracy" is the minute i will say, see you later i'm outta here.

I understand a lot of what you say here, but i don't agree on the Gay marriage thing. Christians have no right to dictate to those who don't live by the Christian faith...and the Bible makes that perfectly clear.

Read, 1st Corinthians Ch5.

"Sucks to be christian at this point! =D** It sure does"

It sure does and it's mostly because of the Madmen who wage war in Christ's name, just like it's tough on Muslims because of luntics who wage violence in the name of Allah and people who practice Judaism because of crazies who wage war in Yahweh/Jehovahs name.

Anyway, Peace.

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PrinceThrakhath, on 5/21/2008 4:01:41 AM
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There you have it... The blame is on religions... and a political system that gives one man such power...
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