@Phaze

Sura (8:55) - Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve

Sura (48:29) - Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves

Sura (8:12) - I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them

Sura (9:123) - O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness

Sura (5:33) - The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement

Dude, just google it...it's been posted on more sites than the daily mail...

OP, People die in a tragic way, and you laugh?

You're truly fucked up, and disgusting.

@GodsSon

Read a fucking book. Not sure which one, how about this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Dying-Win-Strategic-Suicide-Terrorism/dp

/0812973380/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210862998&sr=8-1

S
econd off, if you're getting your information from Daily Mail, you're either stupid or... well let's just leave it at stupid. Not like I'm against different forms of media, but sources are important and Daily Mail lacks completely.

Here's an example:

"Involving women in fighting violates religious taboos in Iraq, but extremists are recruiting females and youths to stage suicide attacks in a desperate attempt to beat tightened security measures."

Look carefully at what's going on here: first off, they try to associate the entirety of the violence against Iraqi Police (which is corrupt and violent) and American Troops (also violent) to the idea that they use "Girls with down Syndrome" as their main method of attacking, which simply can't be true. But in the heads of the intellectually uninspired and frankly xenophobic it's alright to continue killing THEM because they are "animals." All the while ignoring two facts that these attacks LARGELY are against TROOPS and POLICE, even admitted by this article, and that much more violence against civilians from the Coalition Forces. Fucking incredible, really.

Good Job contributing to the problem.

@Screewe

Sri Lanka is totally Muslim and they bomb all the time. Oh wait, they commit more suicide attacks than any Islamic group (and likely more than Islamic groups in total) and they are Hindus that are fighting under a Marxist banner. What just because YOU don't hear about them it simply doesn't exist right? Which allows you to bullshit statistics, which I understand was hyperbole, that show your own biased pre-conceptions on what the fuck the world is like. Besides, ask a Marionite in Lebanon, Orthodoxy in Palestine and you'd get a sense of solidarity with the militants in their mission to free all Arabs.

Shows also what you know, hate to say. Makkah is NOWHERE near Afghanistan. It's like me, being next to NYC, is close to Devner. In galactic relative terms I'd be right, but not for humans. And if your in Afghanistan you're dealing with THE LOWEST FUCKING LITERACY RATES IN THE WORLD. They don't know what the book says, only what they are told from Tribal leaders that use that ignorance as a tool for their own power. Also you say you're there, so I kind of assume you're likely Military, praytell?

How about we put it this way, you say 99% suicide operatives are Muslim, let me ask you how many Muslims committed these attacks in Iraq before America invaded and made the country shit? Come on, I can take it.

@Traumental

The first one is about War, dumbass. Also you're translation is odd, which one is it? I had:

"Verily, the vilest creatures in the sight of God are those who are bent on denying the truth and therefore do not believe." Which isn't quite as bad in context, even from your moral relativist viewpoint.

It even goes further if you decided to gander a look:

"or, if thou hast reason to fear treachery [61] from people [with whom thou hast made a covenant], cast it back at them in an equitable manner: [62] for, verily, God does not love the treacherous!"

5:58 Asaad Translation.

Whaaa??? Be nice to people you're in treaty with and not having to defend yourself against? Fucking animals, don't they know you decimate populations for no reason.

And ffs the last one you quote even talks about the others being the aggressive force in the first line. Or is that not what I was supposed to be looking at?

I have no time for this. No matter how many times we go through this, no matter how many of the criminals talk about why they do it, no matter how many studies are done, you will STILL believe that Islam is the root of this action even though even THOSE THAT COMMIT these acts do not usually for religion, but over identity issues and always against an overwhelming oppressive force or do it for a shittttt load of money and social honor for their families. Please grow up and get a viewpoint that a) reflects the world not your own beliefs, and b) is sophisticated enough where you can think beyond a linear way.

~Cheers

@traumetal

you fail... utterly...
i said show me a verse that isnt limited by another verse. just surah 5:33 alone shows that you fight those that WAGE WAR AGAINST YOU. if someone wages war aginst me, ofcourse ima fight back. im guessing you never read the quran, only parts. so let me show you a few things. incase you didnt know, one part of the quran doesnt abrogate the other. it only adds to. so, if a verse says kill, and another says only kill in self defence, the original verse that says kill is limited by the second verse that says self defence. need proof of my claim?

15:89 And say: "I am indeed he that warneth openly and without ambiguity,"-
15:90 (Of just such wrath) as We sent down on those who divided (Scripture into arbitrary parts),-
15:91 (So also on such) as have made Qur'an into shreds (as they please).
15:92 Therefore, by the Lord, We will, of a surety, call them to account,
15:93 For all their deeds.

this shows that a muslim shouldn't just follow one verse, but is commanded to follow every verse in context with the ENTIRE Quran.

you know what that means? that those verses you cited are limited by....

2:190 AND FIGHT in God's cause against those who wage war against you, but do not commit aggression-for, verily, God does not love aggressors.

22:39 To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight), because they are wronged;- and verily, Allah is most powerful for their aid

25:68 Those who invoke not, with Allah, any other god, nor slay such life as Allah has made sacred except for just cause, nor commit fornication; - and any that does this (not only) meets punishment.

26:227 Except those who believe, work righteousness, engage much in the remembrance of Allah, and defend themselves only after they are unjustly attacked. And soon will the unjust assailants know what vicissitudes their affairs will take!


please do a little research. and for the sake of atleast making an informed statement, read the book. salaam.