Spanking can be a powerful tool, but like all power, it can be abused.


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meh., on 5/9/2008 2:57:20 PM
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cindymoynat wrote:
Excellent article!
I completely agree with you.
My son is 19 years old and he is a wonderful young man. I never had any kind of problem with him as a teenager.He doesn't drink, smoke, or take drugs. He is very intelligent and a bright student.He calls me "the best mom of the world".My secret? A lot of patience (raising a child it is not an easy task!),love, and...yes, spanking!
One more thing: I'm a single mom!



Raw bollocks, or he's a virgin and will be for a long time.
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murinko, on 5/10/2008 3:50:52 AM
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Seriously? Spanking as an effective parenting tool? What the hell does that mean? I was taught respect by being treated with respect. Did I receive spankings? Yes. Did I deserve them? Yes. That's the difference between asserting your almighty power as an grown person over a small defenseless one. Ever think that there is a reason your child behaves badly? Hmm, could it be that he sees anger and bullying too much? Spanking and physical abuse are never okay to be used as a tool. What the hell? You're a tool. Try figuring out why in the hell your child won't sit his ass down and eat dinner. Maybe he's not hungry at that time, maybe your wife's cooking sucks ass, maybe your table conversation makes his tiny stomach roll. Whatever the reason, it can be fixed without laying hands on him. Furthermore, it freaking kills me that your proud of yourself for hurting your own child. My God, I don't even know what to think of that. The only time it is acceptable to spank a child is if they are placing themselves or someone else in danger. For instance, your little hellion decides to stab at his Mother with his fork or he tries to smother himself in his crappy mash potatoes. MAYBE if he decided to start flinging his own shit at you while you broke your bread. Leave your hands off your child and chill the hell out. Life is short, do you really think in the big scheme of things you're going to wish you beat your son's ass at the dinner table more?
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Flik, on 5/10/2008 4:37:04 AM
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murinko wrote:
The only time it is acceptable to spank a child is if they are placing themselves or someone else in danger. For instance, your little hellion decides to stab at his Mother with his fork or he tries to smother himself in his crappy mash potatoes.

Or, for example, they are refusing to eat.
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SpiritualWarrior, on 5/10/2008 9:14:49 AM
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"Life is short, do you really think in the big scheme of things you're going to wish you beat your son's ass at the dinner table more?"

Why, yes. Yes I do. Spanking teaches respect for those who are in charge. You are under the false impression that parents and children are 'on the same level'. This is the kind of thinking that parents use that makes their kids go out of control. YOU are the dominant power.

Very few people are recommending spanking for every little thing. They recommend it as a last resort when all other options have been exhausted. It works. I know this because I've been spanked, myself.

Let me give you this scenario. What if you are at a restaurant and your kid starts screaming and running around and throwing food everywhere? "Please, Jimmy, can you stop for Daddy? Please? Please?" You weak-kneed, yellow-bellied, sap-sucking monkey! You think the world runs on your 'flower-power' where kids are little angels 100% of the time and respect parents? They run in the fields and pick pansies for their mothers and get the paper for their fathers? Come back to reality, please. That scenario just begs for a spanking. You think by asking them nicely, they'll stop? You are the parent! You are the dominant party! You don't ASK them to stop. You DEMAND they stop.
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bulshoy, on 5/10/2008 12:57:07 PM
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"Ever think that there is a reason your child behaves badly? Hmm, could it be that he sees anger and bullying too much?"

See, that's the trouble with nailing someone to the cross without knowing wtf you're talking about?

Anger? Bullying? If you told that to anyone who knew me, they'd be doubled over laughing their ass off.

"I was taught respect by being treated with respect. Did I receive spankings? Yes. Did I deserve them? Yes."

Oh, so your parents used spanking as a tool of discipline? And you agree with it? Is English your first language, because I really don't think that you have a firm grasp of it.

"Maybe he's not hungry at that time"

Yeah, routine is bad and kids should just be able to wing it and do what they want, when they want. Wow. You don't have any idea what parenting is all about, do you?

Ask your mommy and daddy (or any parent) what role routine plays in raising a child, especially a toddler.

"r. For instance, your little hellion decides to stab at his Mother with his fork or he tries to smother himself in his crappy mash potatoes."

Ahahahahahaha! You can't be older than 15, right?

Seriously, your comments were really good for a laugh. I'm going to start emailing them to friends and family.

Oh, and improve your reading comprehension skills. When someone says "spanking your child might be effective if used sparingly when all other avenues have been tried and failed (which has been exactly once in a 3 year period)" with "regularly beating your kid for no good reason is OK."

"Very few people are recommending spanking for every little thing. They recommend it as a last resort when all other options have been exhausted. It works. I know this because I've been spanked, myself."

See? SpiritualWarrior knows how to understand what he reads. Even if he disagreed with me (which he didn't), he at least understood the concept.

"What if you are at a restaurant and your kid starts screaming and running around and throwing food everywhere?"

Step 1 would be a polite request. "Please sit down, your behaviour is unacceptable."

Step two (if he didn't stop, of course) would be a more authoritative demand, perhaps with a threat of reprisal. "Sit in your chair right now, or else you will get no dessert (or something to that effect)."

Step three would be carrying out the threat. "No dessert for you."

Step four would be departing from the restaurant. "We're going home now, and you're not coming out for dinner again until you can behave like a human being at the table."

Spanking would come into play if, after all that, you get home and your child is still freaking out over being brought home/not getting dessert, and other avenues (such as taking his toys away, threat of an earlier bedtime, time-outs) don't work (very very rarely does it come to that). A slap on the ass, followed by a reminder of what he did wrong will do the trick, and the behaviour won't be repeated.

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micmac988, on 5/10/2008 1:32:52 PM
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I have a 4 1/2 yr old and a 13 yr old.

I like to consider myself as a rational and reasonable person. I consider spanking as a last ditch effort. I've only had to spank my oldest once and never my youngest.

But the THREAT is enough to make them think about complying with what's expected of them.

My kids know, without and beyond any doubt, that I love them and will do whatever I can for them. But they also know that I AM the parent. Most of the time all it takes is a look to get my kids under control (but they're well behaved that this is hardly ever an issue).

My 13 yr old is built like a line backer, I look more like a runner, but he knows (through years of conditioning) that I'd drop him like a sack of steaming shit if he ever wanted to challenge my authority.

There's no one true way to raise and discipline a child, each kid is different, but a spanking, especially by the parent who's considered the "superhero" does it will always make a child think twice in the future.

The most important thing is to never hit your kid out of anger. And make sure you talk to them after and explain how what you did, you really didn't want to do.
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3lilangels, on 5/11/2008 3:18:25 AM
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I would have to agree with Mick420, he actually has the right idea. Spanking only to a certain point.
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Behemoth, on 5/11/2008 8:47:57 PM
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Here here!
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