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Economic Disaster

   Posted by finalflash  Promoted 62 days 2 hours ago  1349 views   

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VERY LONG explanation of the current economic crisis. It is long mainly because I need to explain shit that normally you would not know of....take this as a macroecon course as well as well. Also had to omit tons of shite.


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jd8coke, on 4/24/2008 12:35:20 AM
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A long but very informative read.

I read some reports somewhere that likened the current situation to the 1929 stock market crash where the banks increased the amount of money in circulation, then withdrew it causing loans to be recalled and making billions in a few years from all the debt they created because the government was guaranteed to pay it back with interest.

It may have been conspiracy bollocks but it did look pretty accurate.
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Romanov, on 4/24/2008 11:49:31 AM
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totally agreed

superb man

so what candidate could fix it? the answer- none of them
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finalflash, on 4/25/2008 12:06:09 AM
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@jd8coke

It wasn't a conspiracy, that is just what history illiterates will tell you because it sounds unbelievable. The only thing that saved the US was the new aggregate demand generated by WW2 near the end of the depression.
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Dheam, on 5/4/2008 10:46:38 AM
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Good job.
You are completely on target.

It's sad that when America sneezes, the rest of the world catches a cold.
Canada is starting to suffer in the same way...
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damasterwc, on 5/4/2008 12:00:20 PM
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haven't read it all yet, but i wanted to correct one thing: banks don't give money, they create it from a fraction of a deposit. they can make money multiple by a factor as long as they retain 10% of deposits:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_creation

so far so good tho... i'll comment more when i have time to finish.
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finalflash, on 5/4/2008 1:24:50 PM
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@damasterwc

Yea, I know. I mentioned the money multiplier in the third paragraph, which is 1/reserve ratio as you said. And by give I meant lend out the amount they create based on the amount they reserve. Had to make it sound a little casual to keep the whole thing from becoming a complete lecture....though it may just be that.
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wagermeiser, on 5/4/2008 6:39:51 PM
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Nice, I am about to start going back to college. As my friend said,"a recession is the best time to go to college because when you get out the jobs will be there." I also sincerely hope that this is the case.

Maybe you should get into the political arena yourself?
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finalflash, on 5/5/2008 12:36:24 AM
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@wager

Careful, there will be less in student loans and shite, so start gathering a good amount of money before you go in.

And I'm actually doing a joint major in Molecular Biology and Business right now, and eventually go into med. It is a better way to help people, less chances of becoming corrupt...unlike politics.
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samxmas888, on 5/7/2008 7:19:44 AM
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Good detailed article - shouted!

The only bit I didn't quite agree with was this:

"The country needs to be dynamic in every aspect, that is why democracy is the best form of government since people are supposed to elect those who are most fit for today's world. Invest in education so what I just said can be done, since a democracy requires an educated and informed public."

I agree with you on paper, but I think that the US/UK don't have true democracies. Its now blatantly obvious that the last US election was completely rigged, and I'm sure a similar kind of manipulation is going on to some degree in the UK.

The US populace are presented with an ersatz democracy (with the illusion of having a choice - "Blue" or "Red") to stop them from realising that they are in fact living in a corporate-run dictatorship in which the future's leaders have already been chosen way before "election day" by those in power.

In the UK this speaks for itself in "New Labour" - which is not a socialist party in any way shape or form. Essentially what we have are "New Conservatives" (New Labour) vs "Old Conservatives" (Original Conservatives).

Party lines have been blurred to such an extent that nobody cares because the end result is the same regardless of who gets elected out of the main 2 parties..





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Hydroshock, on 5/7/2008 11:54:32 PM
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I was reading through and you mentioned something about the government losing their savings from inflation. Inflation is actually a benefit to governments as it shrinks their debts relatively. That's why some African/Middle Eastern countries and I think after WW2 some Euro countries favored inflation after a huge war debt.
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