So Bathory's a Pagan huh, I say we burn the Witch..!!!!

actually i do feel special, therefore i want some fucking cookies and a glass of lemonade...

your joking right? the only reason why i mentioned it was because of the fact that pagans are viewed as the fucking anti-christs of the entire world

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Next time just answer the door nekkid, with a giant dildo in your hand. Then invite them inside to talk.
That will cut the visit short.

Freedom from speech is not compatible with freedom of speech. One destroys the other.

What you are championing is a form of persecution, you just aren't connecting the dots. By claiming that you should be free FROM speech, you are endorsing the gagging of others.

Where to begin with all the ignorance on my faith hmm let's start with the blog itself shall we?


"3. However, I do not appreciate the fact my gated community let in solicitors…lazy bastards."

One problem they aren't selling anything hence not solicitors.

"Which all-prior sins may be forgiven at the purchase of one Bible…of course"

Uhh really name one time a missionary has asked for money or tried to sell anything, let alone saying that if you buy something your sins are forgiven. Stop trying to put us in with the protestants. You cannot buy miracles faith or redemption. In fact to say so is called priestcraft ( a biblical subject protestants conveniently ignore) a sin in and of itself and a very grievous one at that (it was even considered worse then adultery or witchcraft in the OT and NT times). There is a reason all our clergy is unpaid including said missionaries.

"By the way, whatever happened to them handing out free bibles?"

We never handed out free bibles although you used to be able to order them by phone however it was costing too much money and most of them were rejected when the people thought that it was "The Book of Mormon." Which they did and do still hand out for free though it is now at the request of the individual as again it was costing to much to have people throw them away without so much as glancing at it's pages.

"Additionally, isn't their opening statement supposed to be, "Good afternoon, may we have a moment of your time to speak to you about the word of god?" Apparently their 'savior' has grown greedy and lazy…(cheap shot I know)"

There is no memorized opening line or anything everything said is neither rehearsed, nor particularly thought of in advance. Though some missionaries do develop their own greeting that they rarely change as the monotony of have doors slammed in your face or worse tends to make you not want to make each greeting to personal.

"The taller individual reprimanded me with rebuke that's intended coarseness did not faze me in the least. For this daunting admonishment has been bestowed upon me several of times before. The legendary phrase of choice among religious fanatics, "You're going to burn in hell."

You lie here, you see us "Mormons" don't particularly believe in hell and the place in our belief similar is reserved for those who commit "perdition" something non-believer like yourself is incapable of. Also Every pagan I met was much more willing to have a civil conversation something all missionaries learn pretty quickly, considering they never put two new missionaries together one of them would have been more willing to talk with you at that point, and would have reprimanded the other for saying something so innately stupid. So why lie and prove it by not knowing what we believe. Perhaps your intentions aren't very pure?

"Therefore, being faced with this rebuttal, the shorter man maintained his composure and added that this 'god' is beyond any humans' capability of understanding. I personally believe in the power and divinity within ones own spiritual self, so I did not buy this man's bullshit for one minute."

Hmm funny because again you state a protestant belief that Mormon's do not share and that is that God cannot be understood. Not only that we believe that the Ultimate goal of man is to become like God and that this is his goal as well. So why are you lying and misrepresenting my beliefs. Are you sure they weren't Jehovah's Witnesses? Because these are all beliefs they share with most Protestant Faith and things that separate us from them. One thing for sure they weren't Mormons that or your lying.

"Now it would be easier if others and I were free of persecution leaving us able to pursue our ecclesial beliefs"

Damn Straight! I'll even add a Quote!

We claim in the privilege of worshiping the almighty God, and and allow all men the same privilege to worship how, where, or what they may, according to the dictates of their own conscience.
Joseph Smith Founder of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (AKA Mormons). By the way that is known as the 11th article of our faith and something every missionary for our Church knows.

So I have to come to one or two conclusions. Either your lying, or you mistook what faith they were from. It could even be a third which actual happens often in which dubious individuals pretend to be from our faith specifically to spread the type of experience you describe. I hope it's one of the latter as the former just makes you pathetic if it is the case.

Ahh on to the comments so much action on my first day back to shoutwire in a long time.

ShanusMaximus said
"Bathory...we are talking about a religion that saves people to the mormon religion AFTER THEY ARE DEAD!"

Kind of but not really, we believe that certain ordinances such as baptism, and giving of the holy ghost(known as confirmation), and "Temple Endowments" must be performed to reach the highest level of glory. These ordinances are performed for and in behalf of the dead. We believe their spirit's still have to accept the gospel and "receive" those ordinances in order for them to be valid at all. It is done in case they accept the gospel and were unable to have the necessary ordinances performed while they lived. We do not believe they are saved just that were are giving them that opportunity nothing more.

"As a Mormon, you are required to work some time for the temple."

Uhh no there is no requirement to do any sort of work for the Church to receive salvation.

"One of those tasks, is sitting at a computer, where a list of dead people come up.
You go through the list and any name that comes up that you feeeeeeeeel wants to be saved to Mormonism, you mark that name.
Later, elders go through the list and SAVE the marked dead to Mormonism."


Uhh again no

Every name received is from a family member who is doing genealogy and every name has its work done unless another living relative in closer relation asks that it not be done.Also permission must be given by the closest living relative.

"Lets just say it has pissed off many a religious group."

This is true mostly because of bigotry and ignorance of what we believe such as the ignorance you have shown towards the subject.

Well that actually covers everything in the comments surprisingly. Feel free to try to tell me what I believe I'll just make a fool out of you or put it into context. Again @Bathory I really hope and somewhat believe it was one of the latter two scenarios. But I can say for a fact they weren't Mormons. I can promise you that Missionaries are trying at all cost to avoid anything remotely resembling an argument. Unless a direct attack is made they are actually very timid and will quickly end a conversation if it goes in the direction your went. They have enough negative attention without asking for it. I was spit on, had thing thrown at me from vehicles, cursed at etc. The persecuted generally try to avoid becoming the persecutor and every missionary goes through what I did and sometimes worse.