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Fleck, on 3/21/2008 11:08:25 AM
Total Posts: 1381, Joined: 12/15/2005
Lets not forget that all the people in power who run everything and get all the normal people brainwashed into the whole religious thing, they themselves are not Christian, or Jewish, or Muslim or what they claim to be in the face of the masses. They are god damn Satanists.
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scout, on 3/21/2008 11:10:36 AM
Total Posts: 2164, Joined: 6/12/2006
^If i had said that the shoutwire community would have burned me like a Witch.
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nforce256, on 3/21/2008 11:13:49 AM
Total Posts: 57, Joined: 12/27/2007
Here is something for Christians to consider. I'd like to keep this civilized, so don't reply with flames...
There are two things I never understood about Christianity. And fyi, yes I have read the Bible.
First and foremost, who exactly is Jesus? I remember reading Jesus is the son of god. Then it also states Jesus is the image of god. Next up, its stated Jesus IS god. I grew up in a small southern town that has over a dozen churches. They all dislike each other and each one says their system is the way to salvation, while the rest are wrong. In this sense, Christianity is more divided than any other religion I know of.
Now second, and more important... I never have and doubt I ever will understand the concept of Jesus's sacrifice. Why must an innocent man die for everyone else's sin? Why would an all-mighty "all-merciful" "God" that Christians claim to have take the blood of an innocent man? Why must Christ pay for the sin that started with Adam & Eve, and why is the rest of humanity damned for that sin? In the U.S. justice system, if my father commits murder, he'd be likely to spend life behind bars. His family or his children would not be damned for his crime. We'd be free to live normal lives. However, Christians want to believe that every human is damned. Even for my own sin, why must Christ's blood be spilled? Why can I myself not repent and ask forgiveness and let it be over?
Basically, it's like communism. No matter how hard I work to perfect my self and obey God and repent, I cannot achieve paradise unless I accept the blood spilled by an innocent man. Just as in communism, a man can't get ahead from hard work like you can in a capitalistic society.
No offense to any Christians, but please don't reply back saying... "But Christ died for you, blah blah." I'm sorry, but hearing that makes me want to puke. I've brought up this topic a million times with Christians, and all I get is that "God sacrificed his son for you" nevermind the fact that the Bible says Jesus IS God. So God killed himself for me? Wow, that makes perfect sense.
Thanks for reading.
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Fleck, on 3/21/2008 11:16:27 AM
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There's another thing, like why would God make everything SO FUCKED UP and then blame US for it?!
God is a fucking piece of shit.
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Papagato, on 3/21/2008 11:21:50 AM
Total Posts: 198, Joined: 5/17/2007
I've got to be honest here; what happened with the Bible and Christianity's always seemed a bit like what might happen if people read Harry Potter books and didn't realise it's fiction.

One, "Woah, he's fucking awesome" and a few Centuries later and there's a herd of muppets trundling around calling people "gits" and waving twigs, basing their lifestyles on something they never realised was meant to just be a big, epic story.
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chewbie, on 3/21/2008 11:22:11 AM
Total Posts: 66, Joined: 7/12/2007
@scout: it doesn't say it in the New testament but it says it in the old one and Jesus tells us not to ignore the OT.
Leviticus 20:13 tells us to kill the gays "All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching" - 2 Timothy 3:16"
Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them" - Matthew 5:17
Also if your kid ever curses at you, kill him! That's what Jesus would do (Mark 7: 10)
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Facehammer, on 3/21/2008 11:55:16 AM
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Fleck - no way man, Satan would never associate with someone so lame and square as a rich, bible-thumping church leader.
If anything, Satan would surely work against god by giving his creations the knowledge and freedom their creator doesn't want them to have. The lesson here is that Satan obviously backs all the cool scientific research like genetic engineering and space travel (but not so much boring stuff like chemistry or psychology).
Satan's just awesome. In the vastly unlikely event that any of this is at all real, I'd personally far rather go to hell than heaven, because all the most interesting people will be right there with me.
Ozzy Osbourne? Hunter S. Thompson? Dimebag Darrell? Hell yeah. Pun so intended.
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chewbie, on 3/21/2008 12:12:21 PM
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@scout: i hope you're not tackling all the contradictions. I'd feel to bad if you did that lol
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scout, on 3/21/2008 12:19:35 PM
Total Posts: 2167, Joined: 6/12/2006
^Haha, a cunny funt.
Firstly, you never showed me the passage from the NT that says kill gays.
Next,For someone who has read most of the Bible you sure missed the context of the passage from Mark.

Hey, whats with the Witchdoctor chap in your Avatar, do you follow Voodoo or is it just a cool pic?

Don't lie now or Legba may close the door on you !!
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changing, on 3/21/2008 12:26:55 PM
Total Posts: 55, Joined: 7/31/2006
Speaking of that my family and I are getting ready to celebrate Easter. Since coming from an Eastern European family, we dine and wine together and enjoy the Resurrection of our Lord Christ. I am older now, close to my thirties. In a healthy individual, male or female, common sense should come in during our teen years, and should develop more as we get older. So I started thinking as I was maturing and exploring the body of my fellow beings, the females. What do eggs and rabbits have to do with the Resurrection of Christ?? Simply nothing. Easter is an ancient pagan holiday, celebrating the rebirth of Mother Earth. Her body starts to come to life. Flowers blossom, the trees turn green, and so on and so forth. It is also a celebration of Isis, the fertility goddess. And who fucks more than anything than humans. Ever heard the term "She fucks like a jackrabbit?" And there you have it in a simple explanation. It is an ancient ritual, and a great Pagan holiday. It is Easter. Let the procreation begin!!!!
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