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The Systematic Death of The US

   Posted by finalflash  Promoted 51 days 8 hours ago  898 views   

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Basically this is a 3 part series to show how the US is being killed off economically, and then as a whole, by outsiders and its own people.


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Judge|ThreeWayDisciple, on 3/18/2008 4:01:11 AM
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Amazon here i come! :P
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bulshoy, on 3/20/2008 7:29:39 AM
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"To recover from this, the US would need to pull out of NAFTA"

What? And pay tarrifs on imported Canadian oil?

Hang in there, America. Economic downturns don't last forever.
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Arsenal1311, on 3/20/2008 8:04:32 PM
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Wouldn't major trading nations retaliate with their own tariffs if the U.S. decided to pursue protectionism? I highly doubt putting tariffs on Chinese goods would do much; they've got more than enough U.S. T-bills to turn off all the lights in the U.S. should they decide to call in the debt. Pulling out of NAFTA would kill them, Canada is one the biggest investors in the U.S. economy.

You're right though about the media downplaying all the action. Loss of confidence in the dollar could seriously hurt many economies dependent on the U.S. dollar (probably explains the increase in oil prices). The Euro has become much, much more attractive now too.
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otester, on 3/23/2008 4:28:30 AM
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Well as long as you let the NWO ravage your country you will have to live with this, in addition to this, fuck you.
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georgelovesdirt, on 3/23/2008 9:15:51 AM
Total Posts: 449, Joined: 11/15/2006
to arsenal:

america is a HUGE country and we dont need anything from any other countries to survive (aside from oil, see "iraqi genocide", most commonly found under "the iraq war").

America is the 4th most "open" economy in the world and the three countires above us and most of the other ones below us are TINY compaired to the US. the fact that the US has kept this open of an economy in this big of a country while everyone around us slowly adopts protecionism is amazing (because they can see the economic downturn comming but because they have smaller beurocracies its easier for them to pass laws and control the money inside their tiny country). actualy its not that amazing because our economy is shrinking while the ecnomomies of europe and china are growing (china being one of the MOST protectionist states by far, they try to make it so the profits of forein companies cant be taken out of china, thats how protectionist they are).

anyway i HOPE our leaders enact tougher tarrifs at the moment, we need them we are getting KILLED! i am normaly all for the open hand of the market, but right now is not the time, when everyone else around us is taking advantage of our open market polocies.

what would happen? goods comming into america will be more expensive and other economies will shrink while ours expands. what retaliation would these countries have against us? nothing! what products of ours are they buying? NOTHING!
aside from a few crappy cars that nobody should buy anyway and a few specialty construction items america is not selling nearly as much shit to the rest of the world as it has in the past, THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE ARE GETTING KILLED! we USE to sell you guys loads of "culture", ie; cd's of ameircan artisit, movies, tv shows. piracy shat all over that. our cars use to be good but that certanly aint the case anymore because we dont have enough good enginiers to design good cars and we cant get the good materials cheap enough because we dont have enough purchasing power anymore (because we dont make as many cars anymore, its a viscious cycle).

please tell me, what american made product have you bought lately? and im not talking desgned in america, or an american brand name on it, i mean a product made MOSTLY in america? these products barely exist anymore, our manufacturing sector has shrunk by insane numbers.

i would have outlawed oursourcing so fast if i was a representative, i seriously cant beleive they even still let that shit fly. i would put far more steep tarrifs on chinas goods, i would equalize it perfectly. if china wants to fight about it and take thier money back let em, come and get it. they wouldnt try shit over a little trade deal gone sour, they would start shit over water or oil, wich is entirly possable in our lifetimes.

unfortunatly fixing the economy has taken a back burner to the iraq war, not in the minds of the american people but in the minds of our elected officials, because they see stability in a iraq as the first step to fixing our economy and trying anything drastic before the war is over could have unpredictable outcomes.

i seriously hope enough people are fed up with our elected officials and what they have done to our country to start some sort of FDR type of social movment in america, i can see it happening this election season, the repuklicans are going to get tossed bigtime.
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Peetalus, on 3/24/2008 10:55:18 AM
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I like, interesting read. Thanks.
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xenomancer, on 3/24/2008 11:31:08 AM
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Well written editorial.
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cadpig, on 3/27/2008 8:57:39 AM
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@georgelovesdirt,

I couldn't agree with you more..Fixing the economy and throwing the bums out in both parties is going to be very painful..

So the reps get tossed, do you believe the dems have the backbone to fix this mess? This mess isn't going to be fixed until we start hurting really bad...enough to bring us out of our comfort zone..
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Kinderplatz, on 3/27/2008 10:06:08 AM
Total Posts: 275, Joined: 9/24/2007
Excellent read. Can't wait for the next part(s). Shouted.

Edit: Also, @ finalflash, are you aware of the 2004 broadcast by Bin Laden where he stated his strategy for victory against the United States was to drag it into military quagmires and exacerbate the destruction of the American economy so that it was no longer able to maintain its global presence?
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Scobiewan, on 4/2/2008 10:22:06 AM
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Good read. When a large empire over-extends itself, it's very open to physical or economic attacks, which are often not seen in time. But all is not lost for America, there is still some inward investment from other countries, and a massive public spending initiative must be on the horizon, to at least prop up the crumbling infrastructure.

The trick is to stop using foreign companies for civic projects, concentrate on manufacturing instead of services, and stop spending trillions on follies. Giving mortgages to people who'll never be able to afford them should probably be frowned upon too.
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